Jankovic on Tourette's
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TSNowWhat |
Jankovic, New England Journal of Medicine |
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An inaccurate representation of Tourette's, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, by a member of the Scientific Advisory Board of the Tourette Syndrome Association.
Jankovic on Tourette's |
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sl |
Re: Jankovic, New England Journal of Medicine | ||
Quote:TSNW, Thanks for providing the info to make it possible for parents concerned about misinformation to attempt to have this sort of stuff corrected. Perhaps we can hope that the Venn diagram be retracted. Leaving this sort of misinformation out there for doctors to reference and consider accurate seems irresponsible to me. How can we hope for knowledgeable TS physicians, when this is used as a reference?? I also am concerned about and opposed to including learning disorders under a "behavioral disorder" category. I have not seen learning disabilities described before as "behavioral", and I believe this representation implies volition. SL {ezop edit to correct formatting} |
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sl |
Re: Other misleading statements in Jankovic's writing | ||
Quote:Most recognizable?? Perhaps to the general public - thanks to the media. Dr. Jankovic further states in his article that the true statistic for coprolalia is not known because some have coprolalia only in their head and some are able to modify the words so they are not profane. This seems to be another misrepresentation of definitions. Coprolalia means verbalizing uncontrollable profanity. It is unfair to try to imply the statistic is higher than his generalized "less than half" by suggesting those with TS utter profanities in their mind. UGH! SL |
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sl |
Re: The 2/3 rule | ||
Quote:Actually, this is the issue I have regarding the entire Teaching the Tiger book. The entire book is written as though all the book applies to all children. In my opinion, the book would be infinitely more useful if edited to carefully suggest that some of these suggestions would be helfpul to some children with difficulties in the educational setting. There are many ideas in the book that are great and those ideas could be useful to teachers for many children, not just children with a TS or OCD or ADHD diagnosis. SL {ezop edit to correct formatting} |
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CoffeeTalking |
Problem with Jankovic's reply to Letter to Editor | ||
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I have a problem with Jankovic's logic in regard to his response to the Letter to the Editor.
Though it is admitted that his patient pool is a *biased* sample, he doesn't seem to make the connection that his very characterization of what it is to have TS *IS* what is keeping his pool small and biased. I would have never recognized my own TS based on his depictions. I, (nor he), would have ever known to have included me in a grouping of people with TS based on his very characterizations of what having TS means; characterizations that in fact do nothing but keep the *group* biased. Until he can acknowledge the fact of the much likely larger and more prevelant group of folks with TS without all the associated conditions he indicates come part and parecel with TS, he will continue to only *study* those in the group that he defines as having TS... in other words, the *biased* sample is originating from his *perceptions* not from his patient group. I would never bring myslef to his attention because of the way he described TS, I would not have recongized it in myself, and therefor not have made myself known to him. I mean Jankcovic is casting a net with his characterization, and then using his *catch-of-the-day* to back up his characterization of what swims in the sea. And using a feeble admission of a "biased" group in his "catch-of-the-day", but no recognition that it is his *net* that is the *biasing* agent, not the catch. Marietta |
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TSNowWhat |
Re: Problem with Jankovic's reply to Letter to Editor | ||
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Excellent points, Coffee. I guess that's probably the whole bottom line to me about the bias in some clinical practice. I heard Jankovic speak once about Tourette's and knew that I would not want to expose my sons as patients to him, so he may see extraordinary referral bias, leading to a self-fulfilling prophecy.
On the other hand, if my boys ever needed a tertiary clinical referral, I would feel completely comfortable with any number of other TS specialists -- the whole attitude and philosophy is just so different. Some clinicians seem to have a better intuitive feeling for all of the patients they are *not* seeing in tertiary specialty clinics. |
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TSNowWhat |
Re: Other misleading statements in Jankovic's writing | ||
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More good points, SL. I was so intrigued that he ventured to redefine Tourette's in a major journal, that I missed that he also had his own definition of coprolalia, or left the impression that learning disabilities were behavioral issues.
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EllenL |
Jankovics twisted TS | ||
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I have to say that when I first looked at the article I couldnt get past the Venn diagram. It made me physically ill to see TS dumped at the center of all the overlapping circles. I later went back to read the article, and though some statements seem to back away from that diagram (such as the truth that the real diagnostic criteria of TS are multiple tics, lasting at least a year, and waxing and waning). there is that lousy, misleading diagram at the top of it all. It is an important symbol. What is a diagram anyway but a picture, an illustration, a quick substitute for a thousand words? What do people remember best? What stands out more than 20 pages of print?
As an adult with TS, and diagnosed with TS as an adult, I have to wonder if Id have been diagnosed at all had my neurologist relied on this article. I was 38 years old. I did not have anxiety, learning disorders, ADD/ADHD, or OCD. Behavior problems? What does that mean for an adult? Its easy enough to brand a child with that- schools do that all the time. Its become a euphemism for different, it seems. I could sit still in a school room all day if I had to, and avoid getting into fights with classmates. Im well mannered, disciplined, not impulsive, I vote and Im kind to animals. I only feel like pulling out my hair or cursing when I see something that will add to the prejudice and ignorance about my neurological condition from someone whos supposed to be an expert, and its out of frustration not compulsiveness. Inappropriate sexual aggressiveness? Sheesh, Im peri-menopausal. I havent felt appropriate sexual aggressiveness for years! But I was a woman who had tics so severe that she couldnt read or drive or hold a conversation. Id throw my head around so hard Id cause whiplash. My body would jerk and arms flail. Three neurologists saw me and didnt have a clue, probably because I didnt have coprolalia and wasnt a kid. A fourth had the good sense to send me to a specialist, a motor disorders neurologist whose partner at that time was on the TSA medical board. He recognized TS right away, and began treating the tics. In hindsight I know Ive had TS since I was very young. It was relatively mild, but present enough at times that at least knowing what I had would have been immensely helpful. But even had I been a kid now, in these enlightened times, by Jankovics version of TS would anyone have seen what I had? I got As, I didnt act up or act out, I got along well with others. Where would I fit on the diagram? Conversely, what if I were a kid with a few tics and was, say, bipolar? Would they just give me a little clonidine and call it all TS? For every step forward to awareness of TS in the past ten years, I fear this article is a leap of a mile backward. Thanks for nothing. |
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karenk10 |
Geez Louise | ||
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We live in Houston and when my son first exhibited TS symptoms I tried like heck to get an appointment with Dr. J. Thank GOD I didn't!!!!
This article bothers me too. Last summer my son was having some behavior problems... major butthead. We went to a shrink we now fondly call Dr. Jerk. Dr. Jerk got mad at my son (and me) one day and decided his initial dx of "no problem" was actually ODD and many other things. He based his opinion loosely on the fact that my son had TS (very mild and no comorbids) and he had read articles similar to this one... stating that behavior issues are part of TS and that I was "in WAY over my head" (quote/unquote.) Sadly, the "real" issue with my son at the time was a problem of stress. He was in a summer program that was too big, too noisy, and too frightening for him and he reacted with poor behavior. We changed the environment and he was just fine. Well, fine as a 7 year old *can* be. If docs get the wrong info, like this article gives, they will make assumptions about our children simply by virtue of the fact that they tic. THat's quite scary. They won't look at our kids as unique kids with unique problems just like any other kid. Yikes. So what do we do? Karen |
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sl |
Re: Jankovics twisted TS | ||
Quote:This is why the Venn diagram is so distressing to me because it comes from a highly respected physician who is looked to as *expert* in the field of TS. The reality is that the NEJM reaches many physicians, who as you point out, have this Venn diagram standing out as a reference. As the parent of 3 children diagnosed with TS, I can say that if we ascribed to the Venn diagram's TS definition and we had lumped my oldest child's behaviors in the TS pot, her bipolar diagnosis would have been missed and she would not have been started on appropriate mood stabilizing medication. This is nothing less than very scary. SL |
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TSNowWhat |
Re: Jankovics twisted TS | ||
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Ellen, as always, you raise excellent and well-presented points.
Neither of my sons could ever be considered as having anything close to behavioral problems or disturbances. Quite the opposite: they are both well known as being among the nicest, most well-behaved, sociable and well-adjusted boys in their classes and among their peers. Each of them has been in hot water at school only a couple of times, all related to not stopping mildly noticeable vocal tics (humming, whistling, gulping). Does their TS not count, according to Jankovic's defintion? Should they be punished for vocal tics, or labeled as having behavioral problems because of vocal tics? My son's TS first became noticeable following a post-traumatic event, in which he saw a child die, and was made to feel responsible. For a very long time, no one considered what later became obvious: he was ruminating on and obsessing about the deaths because of his TS and OC tendencies. We saw multiple doctors who did not pick up on TS, as they were all subject to extreme misconceptions about what TS is (see my About Us page). Until we understood that my son had TS (something we only became aware of initially because of a friend), we did not know how to approach his grief and resulting post-traumatic depression. So, although my son could not be described today as having significant impairment, and could never be described as having behavioral disorders, he most certainly had a period of time of deep grief and obsessive suffering due to his TS-related ruminations and moderately-severe tics. Jankovic's definition of TS would have deprived my son of the understanding and correct treatment that he needed in order to become the fine, well-behaved young man that he is today. No one, back then, wanted to acknowledge that a well-behaved, well-liked child could have Tourette's. Jankovic's article will only help further the misconceptions that will prevent boys like mine from getting adequate treatment and understanding, and will help further the stigma already associated with Tourette's. Worse, as that diagram promotes the notion of "lumping" everything under the TS umbrella, rather than "splitting" in order to better understand issues leading to impaired functioning, many children may receive incomplete or inaccurate diagnoses of all of their conditions, leading to improper treatment. |
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TSNowWhat |
Re: Jankovics twisted TS | ||
Quote: Karen, before I had two teenage boys on my hands *grin*, I had all kinds of free time to make sure things like this were brought to the attention of as many people as possible. These days, I just don't have that kind of time available ... and all we can all do is spread the information everywhere we can, and write those letters. Write to the TSA, write to the NEJM, write to AAFP, and most importantly, ask physicians who work with your family to write as well. We will be heard evemtually, as we were in the Dr Laura case, and as we were when the misleading "R.A.G.E." pamphlet was published by the TSA in a fashion that was heavily promoted by one self-selecting group. Write those letters! The addresses are all on the webpage. |
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TSNowWhat |
Re: Jankovics twisted TS | ||
Quote:While this is distressing, what ultimately concerns me much more is the TSA's apparent silence on this matter. If they don't represent us, who does? Us, I guess. Via the power of the internet. |
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chauzay |
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It is really too bad that he messed up the article so badly. To me, it seemed he had a lot of good information in the article. But then he seemed to go off the deep end in order to....well, I don't really know why he did it! He claims to want to educate in order to assure proper diagnosis of Tourette Syndrome, but then adds symptoms that may be seen along with TS, but are not an actual part of the diagnosis of TS. I would think it would be important to separate the various symptoms of different conditions in order to know how to best treat (or not treat) them. The overall tone of the article appears to lump everything together under the heading of TS. And that diagram is way out of line. I'm not up on graphs or diagrams or whatever you call it. But if I didn't know much about TS, I would assume that all of those conditions went along with TS. Not that they MIGHT be seen along with TS in some people. And I don't have enough faith in the medical community to think that just because someone is a doctor that they would know that TS can be tics only. I have mentioned my son's TS with a couple of doctors who have made the assumption that he MUST be on some kind of medication. They have never asked IF he was taking any. It was "what kind" of medication was he taking. We have been fortunate becasue he has not needed medication yet. My son was initially diagnosed with TS and no comorbids. He had vocal and motor tics only. I guess we were lucky his doctor recognized it right off. If she had been working under the assumption that he needed to have ADHD or coprolalia or OCD, or anything besides just tics, she may have been hesitant to make the diagnosis and referral. And we would have been totally lost about how to deal with tics. Who knows how long we would have been telling him "if you keep doing that, it's going to become a habit you can't stop!" Geez...I could still kick myself for saying that to him before we knew. And he would have been even more lost as to why he felt the need to tic. He is very comfortable with an explanation and reasurrances that TS is just TS. But we have had some problems with a teacher who claimed to know about Tourette Syndrome. She took it upon herself to NOT recommend him for the school districts gifted program because she made the assumption that his TS would make the testing too stressful on him. And this is a kid who loves school and TESTS!!!! He has no test anxiety whatsoever. We had him tested and he did qualify easily. But because there is this information out here that dramatizes TS to such an extent, too many people don't look at our kids as just kids...They look for things wrong with them instead of what is right with them. And they see things that aren't even there....Why an expert on TS and on the TSA board would write an article purporting to help insure that TS is properly diagnosed and treated and then sensationalize Tourettes in that same article is beyond me....jennybravo
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TSNowWhat |
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On another board, someone pointed out that they were really bothered by Jankovic's statement of "not being able to control their temper," (p. 1186 of article, second column) and added: "That's like saying that people with TS are "not able to control urges."
Yep. Jankovic made a lot of statements in that article that are moving us backwards from things the TSA has already had to correct in the past, and towards the notion of persons with TS as being angry, rageful, and unable to control their behavior. Another friend and annoyed humorist on a.s.t. gets credit for this site for the suggested intellectual level of any future colored diagrams submitted to the NEJM: Neuroscience coloring book |
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TSNowWhat |
Update on Jankovic/NEJM situation | ||
A family member of a patient of Jankovic has reported on an internet bulletin board that Jankovic defends his article, and she further reports that he stated to her that it was approved by the TSA. If you have any concern for the unnecessary stigmatization and possibility of future misdiagnoses of people with Tourette's syndrome, please write to the addresses listed at the bottom of this page. As the "only national voluntary non-profit membership organization" for Tourette's, it is incumbent upon the TSA to issue a press release highlighting the misleading information and specifying the correct diagnostic criterion for Tourette's. The silence of the national Tourette Syndrome Association in this matter is most curious. |
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TSNowWhat |
My letter to the TSA, in light of recent Jankovic revelation | ||
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Joseph Jankovic, M.D., who serves in an advisory capacity for the Tourette Syndrome Association, published a diagram and definition of Tourette's in the New England Journal of Medicine with a misleading representation of Tourette's syndrome. "Figure 1. Clinical Hallmarks of Tourette's Syndrome. The diagnosis is based on the occurrence of tics along with behavioral disorders, including attention - deficit -- hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and obsessive - compulsive disorder (OCD). Other behavioral disorders include anxiety and mood disorders, learning disorders, sleep disorders, conduct and oppositional behavior, and self-injurious behavior." (Jankovic J. Tourette's syndrome. New England Journal of Medicine, October 18, 2001; 345:1184-92.)
Figure 1 makes an impressive first visual impact, with a Venn diagram showing Tourette's lying at the intersection of tics, ADHD, OCD, and behavioral disorders. When the misleading information was pointed out by another physician in a letter to the editor of NEJM, Dr. Jankovic's response acknowledged the correct diagnostic criterion for Tourette's, but defended his representation of Tourette's nonetheless. The article was further picked up and endorsed in an article in the American Family Physician. A family member of a client of Dr. Jankovic reported on an internet bulletin board that, when questioned about this article, Jankovic defended his article and she reports that he stated that "it was also approved by upward of ten leading professionals, including Dr. xxxxxxx, and the TSA." (Name xxx'd out as I have not verified this hearsay and do not consider it worthy of repeating.) To my knowledge, the TSA has made no effort to correct or refute the notion, put out nine months ago in a major medical journal, that a diagnosis of Tourette's includes behavioral disorders. The entire incident, including the text of the article and letters to the editor, is elaborated here: tourettenowwhat.tripod.co...icNEJM.htm I urge the TSA, its Board of Directors, and Medical and Professional Advisory Boards to take steps to correct and refute the widespread publication of this misrepresentation of Tourette's syndrome. In its unique position to advocate for persons with Tourette's syndrome, it is shocking that the TSA has allowed this misleading definition of Tourette's to go uncontested, or to think that members of TSA Advisory Boards subscribe to these notions of Tourette's. The notion that a diagnosis of Tourette's must include the behavioral disorders, as listed in the article by Jankovic, can lead to further underdiagnosis and misdiagnosis of the condition, as well as further stigmatization of those who have Tourette's. It will not help family physicians recognize TS in family practice. It is incumbent upon the TSA and its spokepersons and representatives to publish accurate information about TS, to further understanding of the condition, and to help lessen the stigma already attached to the condition. These kinds of inaccurate representations of the condition have long contributed to the unnecessary stigmatization of persons with Tourette's: it seemed that this sort of thing had stopped since the mid-90s. I hope the TSA and its representatives will take a stand for accuracy in published information about Tourette's, and refute this misleading information in order to help minimize the already unnecessary stigmatization of persons with Tourette's. |
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TSNowWhat |
More thoughts | ||
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More thoughts on the how referral bias can influence the diagnoses a given physician may confer, and how that could have impacted upon my son:
Dr. Jankovic defends his article. That, combined with his past work, seems to indicate that he truly believes that behavioral disorders are a big part of TS. Referral bias seems to be an issue here -- that is, knowing that he holds these views, some patients would be less than willing to use him as a doctor -- further reinforcing his views about TS. I wouldn't let my children see him, and I wonder how often he sees uncomplicated TS? So, of course, the fact that he holds these views may contribute to what kinds of patients see him, which may further his bias about TS. But consider how his predisposition may *influence* the diagnoses he confers. My son was in deep doo-doo when his TS first surfaced, with post-traumatic stress related to having seen a child die. At that time, he was obsessing and ruminating on the deaths (quite natural given that he was made to feel responsible by the police interview, and he then experienced five more deaths in rapid succession). His resulting depression and rumination on the deaths resulted in further issues that looked attentional on the surface. Imagine the consequences if we had seen a physician who holds views similar to Jankovic's. Perhaps we would have gotten a standard diagnosis of TS/OCD/ADHD, rather than the understanding which we needed to adequately address my son's issues and help him get better. The correct answer was not TS/OCD/ADHD -- the correct answer was post-traumatic depression resulting in an exacerbation of tics and OC ruminations, with enough severity to cause him to appear ADHDish (which resolved with the right treatment approach). Simply knowing that he was ruminating, and treating accordinigly, resolved the situation so that today, he only tics and has some OC tendencies. The wrong assumptions about TS would have deprived my son of the right treatment, and he was in very bad shape. The kind of information and beliefs that this article contains could have deprived my son of an accurate diagnosis, and even though he's doing fine today, that might not have been the case had he been improperly diagnosed. Where would my son be today if we had called it TS/OCD/ADHD and missed the real issues? Or what if his TS had not been diagnosed at all, given that he has no "behavioral issues?" What would his prognosis have been if deprived of the understanding of the relationship between his TS and his obsessive ruminations and inability to let go of the deaths he was exposed to? Tics don't kill -- depression does. Please write to these addresses, and encourage them to advocate for ACCURATE information about TS. ts@tsa-usa.org, josephj@bcm.tmc.edu, fp@aafp.org, cormierb@psychiatry.wustl.edu, comments@nejm.org |
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TSNowWhat |
Sample letter | ||
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To: ts@tsa-usa.org, josephj@bcm.tmc.edu, fp@aafp.org, cormierb@psychiatry.wustl.edu, comments@nejm.org
I am writing because a misleading and stigmatizing representation of Tourette's syndrome was published recently in the New England Journal of Medicine. This inaccurate definition of Tourette's will hinder accurate diagnoses in family practice of patients with Tourette's. It further unnecessarily stigmatizes persons with Tourette's by inaccurately attaching "behavioral disturbances" as part of the diagnosis. It is surprising that the NEJM would allow publication of an article which has an error in the basic definition of the condition, particularly when there is ample research literature refuting the claims made by Joseph Jankovic, MD, in this article. The current diagnostic criteria for Tourette's is listed here: http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/touretteTR.htm Diagnostic criteria for 307.23 Tourette's Disorder A. Both multiple motor and one or more vocal tics have been present at some time during the illness. B. The tics occur many times a day nearly every day or intermittently throughout a period of more than 1 year, and during this period there was never a tic-free period of more than 3 consecutive months. C. The onset is before age 18 years. D. The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance or a general medical condition. The article in question, psychiatry.wustl.edu/Resources/LiteratureList/2001/November/Jankovic.pdf included a Venn diagram showing Tourette's to lie at the intersection of tics, ADHD, OCD, and behavioral disturbances, and stated the following: "The diagnosis is based on the occurrence of tics along with behavioral disorders, including attention - deficit -- hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and obsessive - compulsive disorder (OCD). Other behavioral disorders include anxiety and mood disorders, learning disorders, sleep disorders, conduct and oppositional behavior, and self-injurious behavior." Jankovic J. Tourette's syndrome. New England Journal of Medicine, October 18, 2001; 345:1184-92. This information is inaccurate: only tics are required for a diagnosis of Tourette's. I hope steps will be taken to rectify this inaccurate and unnecessary representation of persons with Tourette's syndrome. Include your personal story here Further information is included here: http://tourettenowwhat.tripod.com/JankovicNEJM.htm |
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TSNowWhat |
Malignant Tourette syndrome | ||
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Parking new Jankovic info on this thread:
Cheung MY, Shahed J, Jankovic J. "Malignant Tourette syndrome." Mov Disord. 2007 Jun 12;22(12):1743-1750 PMID: 17566119 Scott BL, Jankovic J, Donovan DT. "Botulinum toxin injection into vocal cord in the treatment of malignant coprolalia associated with Tourette's syndrome." Mov Disord. 1996 Jul;11(4):431-3. PMID: 8813224 |
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